Defunkd

[hermosavtg]

I didnt know that Urban Outfitters was selling t-shirts in the 1970's http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-1970s-MOTT- ... 0372583312

A bunch of obvious 90's repro t-shirts with "1970's vintage" in the listing title:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-1970S-BLACK-SAB ... 0556797173" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-1970s-DAVID-BOW ... 0373598586" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://cgi.ebay.com/VTG-1970S-BETTE-MID ... 0373178796" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-1970s-GRATE ... 0556775936" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

from the sellers "me" page:
"Why go to the mall and waste your money on a "vintage" knockoff...WHEN YOU CAN JUST BUY THE REAL VINTAGE STUFF FROM US HERE AT SILVERTRAIN VINTAGE....."

[jimmyj]

How do these people sleep at night?!

Well, it's not working out so well for them....everything sells for $6. Still cheaper than buying a real repro at the mall.

[Frank]

I contacted that seller
My message: That Mott the Hopple shirt is a reprint-made by Urban Outfitters a few years back.

Seller's Response:you are crazy!! i have never bought clothing at outfitters ever
b4...i bought this from a vintage owner that i know fro years
ago..do you want his name, address and phone number so you
can get yourself hooked up with some cool clothing...get a life i
heard they are on sale at k-mart..


- silvertrainvintage

[TrickyGuns]

Note the amazing grammar. What is this kid, 12?

[Frank]

His MySpace page says he's 42.

[jimmyj]

I heard they are on sale at K-Mart. Best burn ever!! (If you're 8 years old).

There's a vintage shop here in Toronto that sells true vintage but if they ever come across blanks at a mill they just print retro stuff on them. Same thing, simple one color prints. Maybe he's a dummy and doesn't realize it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0368241375" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Plus he's got multiples of the same print on different brands and colors of t-shirts...red flag.

Best part is

And we are working on opening a store in our area as well....ALSO MAKING A WEBSITE IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR ALL YOUR VINTAGE NEEDS.

Thank god, our prayers have been answered.

[Frank]

When people protest too much, it's definitely a tip off. If someone told me that a shirt was a reprint, I'd say "thanks for the heads up" and change my listing unless I could prove it was vintage.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

I'd love to see who he his imaginary supplier is.

[hermosavtg]

If he's printing them himself he's printing them on some shabby thrift store looking blanks from the late 90's.

[Frank]

that's exactly what he's doing. seems akin to spending $1.50 to counterfeit a dollar.

[jimmyj]

Here's a Rainbowgasoline related blog comment:

http://www.defunkd.com/2009/01/12/can-y ... e-t-shirt/"

Paul Evans Says:
August 16th, 2010 at 11:42 am

I bought one of these Black Flag shirts from rainbowgasoline a while back and noticed another one had been posted up. If this shirt isn’t a phony, I don’t know what is, frankly. The screen printing is raised and too-good-of-new-to-be-true. I have sent the seller a polite and genteel Q informing him of my suspicions, but so far, no answer. I think someone took a pile of period-correct Screen Stars shirts and silkscreened a Pettibon flyer on the suckers. If it were genuine, why wouldn’t the seller be charging out the roof for it, given that he clearly knows what the value of the real deal would potentially be?

[jimmyj]

Spoofing champion. I haven't seen any of the original Mahagamage tags since the Tiny Pony era. Beware, Mahagamage obviously models their stuff after true vintage so this jersey could be used for evil.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... TQ:US:1123

[wax&thread]

Before reading this thread, I was looking at some of AC listings and was a bit suspicious. I simply asked if a shirt was original and about the tag, but received no answer. I decided to bid anyway and just take the risk only to find they had blocked me from bidding on their items. Guess they work on a "don't ask don't tell" policy.

[jimmyj]

Yipppp - they were still running the humpty t-shirts through their account two years after we confirmed they were bogus. They have no shame. Tiny Pony in disguise.

[hermosavtg]

A classic mahagammage knock off not only evidenced by the tag with the name, but by the piss poor screen print job. I think I made better ones in high school graphics class.

[hermosavtg]

http://www.allgearedout.com/?p=3
Check out that post. And then check out the sellers (crazzyfreddy) completed items

[jimmyj]

Looks like TinaLove1991 has either moved to a new account or there's a new player peddling their merch.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/kyle1306924/m.h ... 4340.l2562

Tina's inventory is 0 right now, maybe the multiple reports finally resulted in eBay warning them.

[oscar]

Check my post blow this one about an etsy bootlegger.

[hermosavtg]

Dont think thats tinalove. For one the location is set as Philadelphia, (not that that means anything) and second Ive never seen TL reproduce those shirts (all awful quality bootlegs to boot) but also this seller seems to have a couple genuine vintage tees mixed in. Probably someone that doesnt know the difference or care.

[jimmyj]

Looks like there's a new booter in town - well - he's been at it for a while - goes about it very quietly only offering 1-2 at a time.

Quite obvious at this point he/she's printing on white vintage blanks using a machine - because he/she mainly offers black and white prints.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-80s-CIRCLE- ... 878wt_1378

even the close-ups look horrible.

The rare color one that's available he/she doesn't offer a close-up of the design...wonder why?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/80s-vtg-BLACK-S ... 500wt_1378

grandpas_golf welcome to our list!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/grandpas_golf/m ... ksid=p3686

[jimmyj]

Academy Clothiers has a new account - and what looks to be a legit Humpty t-shirt...guess they are selling the original they copied from?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1765wt_946

[Frank]

Intensely clever new name: academyclothiers2
that'll throw the bloodhounds off his/her/their trail

[theeteetotaler]

I'm a longtime collector and seller and wonder if I've ever been discussed on this board as being a bootlegger. I have a decent sized cache of deadstock shirts, many of which were made by winterland. One in particular is a Tone Loc Shirt with a very heavy silk screen on the front. i bought them from winterland when their warehouse moved in 2001/2002. The shirts were so minty that they still smelled like the inks. I'll have to start posting some pieces in the show and tell section, I've got a lot of interesting shirts. I've been working in a different field for the past few years and haven't been able to sell on ebay, but I've got the itch again and have been accumulating like crazy.

[Johnny65]

^ post some pics theeteetotaler

[jimmyj]

@theteetotaler - doubtful - we've got a good eye and nose for sniffing out the fakers. We take way more in to consideration than just an item being deadstock - design/printing flaws, feedback, lack of tags, suspicious posting practices, blurry closeups, etc.

I've come in to a few hauls of deadstock from the garages of ex-merch managers - we know they're out there.